Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

02/14/2023 10:15 AM House ENERGY

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10:16:46 AM Start
10:17:48 AM Presentation(s) Regional Railbelt Coordination
11:19:54 AM Adjourn
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by Brian Hickey, Executive Director
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY                                                                              
                       February 14, 2023                                                                                        
                           10:16 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative George Rauscher, Chair                                                                                           
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative Calvin Schrage                                                                                                   
Representative Ashley Carrick                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josiah Patkotak                                                                                                  
Representative Stanley Wright                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S) REGIONAL RAILBELT COORDINATION                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CURTIS THAYER, Executive Director                                                                                               
Alaska Energy Authority                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented a presentation titled Regional                                                              
Railbelt Coordination.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN HICKEY, Executive Director                                                                                                
Regional Railbelt Coordination                                                                                                  
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented a presentation titled Regional                                                              
Railbelt Coordination.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:16:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GEORGE  RAUSCHER called  the  House  Special Committee  on                                                             
Energy meeting  to order at  10:16 a.m.  Representatives Carrick,                                                               
Schrage, Prax,  McKay, and Rauscher  were present at the  call to                                                               
order.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S) REGIONAL RAILBELT COORDINATION                                                                                 
         PRESENTATION(S) REGIONAL RAILBELT COORDINATION                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
10:17:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER  announced that the  only order of  business would                                                               
be a presentation, titled "Regional Railbelt Coordination."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:18:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CURTIS  THAYER,  Executive  Director,  Alaska  Energy  Authority,                                                               
stated  that there  is currently  "historic" alignment  among the                                                               
Railbelt utilities  and the  Alaska Energy  Authority (AEA).   He                                                               
stated that upgrading  the transmission lines on  the Railbelt is                                                               
a necessary  step in moving  towards a higher usage  of renewable                                                               
energy sources.   He said  that 166 million dollars  have already                                                               
been   contributed    by   the   utilities    towards   upgrading                                                               
transmission.   He  said that  a decrease  in price  per kilowatt                                                               
(kW) on the  Railbelt would also benefit rural Alaska  due to the                                                               
power cost equalization (PCE) program.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:22:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN    HICKEY,    Executive   Director,    Regional    Railbelt                                                               
Coordination,  gave a  brief overview  of his  PowerPoint, titled                                                               
"Modernizing  the  Railbelt  Grid,"  [hardcopy  included  in  the                                                               
committee packet], presentation as shown on slide 2.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  continued to slide 3  and stated that as  part of the                                                               
Grid  Modernization and  Resiliency Plan  (GMRP), there  would be                                                               
consideration   of   connecting   the  Copper   Valley   Electric                                                               
Association  with the  Railbelt.   He stated  that 75  percent of                                                               
Alaska's population  lives on the  Railbelt, and he said  that 80                                                               
percent  of Alaska's  electricity is  generated on  the Railbelt.                                                               
He  stated  that the  Railbelt  only  has 3  single  transmission                                                               
lines, resulting  in a  single contingency  line that  allows for                                                               
the transfer of only  10 percent of the peak load.   He said that                                                               
any time  one of those transmission  lines is out of  service, it                                                               
results  in  that  area  being  cut off  from  the  rest  of  the                                                               
Railbelt.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:26:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE  asked  about  the  relationship  between                                                               
lowering  energy costs  on the  Railbelt and  energy funding  for                                                               
communities in rural Alaska.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  answered that  he would  provide more  information on                                                               
the subject later on in the presentation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:28:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY continued  to slide  4 and  stated that  the Railbelt                                                               
utilities are aligned on the  challenges facing the Railbelt.  He                                                               
continued to slide 5 and stated  that the utilities, the AEA, and                                                               
the Regulatory  Commission of Alaska  have created a  vision that                                                               
seeks a "collaborative future."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  continued to  slide 6 and  stated that  the utilities                                                               
and regulators have  created a 12-15 year plan  that will upgrade                                                               
transmission  along  the  Railbelt and  cost  approximately  $2.9                                                               
billion.   He said  that all of  the proposed  transmission lines                                                               
would  undergo  the  National  Environmental  Policy  Act  (NEPA)                                                               
process.    He  said  that  phase  1  of  the  plan  would  build                                                               
transmission from  Bradley Lake to Lake  Lorraine, including both                                                               
a rebuild of the current system and a second transmission line.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.   HICKEY  stated   that  the   rebuilding   of  the   current                                                               
transmission  lines  and  building  of an  additional  system  of                                                               
transmission  lines is  a  necessary step  in  utilizing new  and                                                               
renewable sources of energy generation.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:33:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY added  that he has spoken with the  U.S. Department of                                                               
Energy  (DoE)  about his  belief  that  Alaska's electrical  grid                                                               
would be  a good place to  test decarbonization of a  grid due to                                                               
the smaller size and subsequent cost.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY continued  to  slides 7  and 8  and  stated that  the                                                               
reason the transmission project  matters is that Alaska currently                                                               
lacks reliability  in its transmission  lines.  He said  that the                                                               
amount of  natural gas available  is decreasing and  the Railbelt                                                               
needs  to  look at  other  sources  of energy  generation,  which                                                               
requires  improvements  in  transmission.     He  said  that  the                                                               
improvements  in transmission  and energy  storage will  increase                                                               
efficiency and  lower energy costs.   He said the PCE  program is                                                               
tied to cost  of energy on the Railbelt, and  that lowering costs                                                               
on the  Railbelt allows for  more money to be  contributed toward                                                               
the PCE.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:34:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked if the transmission  project plan took                                                               
the possibility  of a natural  gas pipeline from the  North Slope                                                               
into account.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY answered  that  transmission  upgrades are  necessary                                                               
regardless of the  source of energy.  In response  to a follow-up                                                               
question,  he   stated  that  the   location  and  cost   of  the                                                               
transmission was being considered.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX expressed  his concern  that decarbonization                                                               
is  shifting dependance  on hydrocarbons  for  dependence on  the                                                               
minerals needed for renewable energy storage.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:37:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER  asked about the  possibility of buying  10 micro-                                                               
nuclear  reactors as  opposed  to more  transmission  lines.   He                                                               
wondered if this  would have a greater impact  on reducing rates.                                                               
He acknowledged that the plan was very unlikely to occur.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY answered  that for  the economy  of scale  to support                                                               
such  an  action,  it  would require  the  participation  of  all                                                               
Railbelt utilities.   He  added that enacting  such a  plan would                                                               
still require the transmission lines  to be upgraded, because the                                                               
utilities would need to be  connected when the reactor located in                                                               
their respective areas were down for maintenance.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:40:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY continued  with slide 8, noting that  the Railbelt has                                                               
critical  infrastructure, including:  the  Ted Stevens  Anchorage                                                               
International Airport, which is  the fourth busiest cargo airport                                                               
in  the  world;  five  military   bases;  mines  for  rare  Earth                                                               
minerals; and a federally designated strategic seaport.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY moved  to slide  9 and  gave the  background for  the                                                               
current transmission line proposals.   He said that Governor Mike                                                               
Dunleavy "challenged" the Railbelt Utilities  and AEA to create a                                                               
plan to  serve the future of  the Railbelt.  With  the passage of                                                               
the   Bipartisan   Infrastructure   Law,   there   is   increased                                                               
opportunity  for   federal  funding   to  aid  in   building  new                                                               
transmission.   He said  that the GMRP  was developed  to improve                                                               
the  economy of  scale and  give the  Railbelt opportunities  for                                                               
energy source  diversification, adding that an  additional effect                                                               
would be reduction of electric rates.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:42:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY  continued to  slide  10,  displaying a  map  showing                                                               
Railbelt transmission  and battery  energy storage  systems along                                                               
the  Railbelt.   He showed  the placement  of the  existing lines                                                               
compared  to the  new  lines  being proposed.    New lines  would                                                               
include  a line  going from  Soldotna to  Healy and  another line                                                               
going  along the  "Roadbelt", tying  the  Copper Valley  electric                                                               
system to the Railbelt.   He mentioned the possibility of another                                                               
potential hydroelectric project roughly  the size of Bradley Lake                                                               
called the Tiekel River Project.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:44:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER asked  if any of the new  transmission lines would                                                               
go through Anchorage, Alaska.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY answered they would.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:45:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY continued  that there is a new  energy storage battery                                                               
in  Soldotna and  there are  plans to  add one  in Anchorage  and                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska.  On slide  11, he gave the three opportunities                                                               
for  federal  funding:  grid resilience,  smart  grid,  and  grid                                                               
innovation.  He noted that  the application for third opportunity                                                               
was put in  by the State of Alaska as  the eligible entity, while                                                               
the  first two  applications were  put in  by Matanuska  Electric                                                               
Association (MEA).   He  moved to  slide 12  and stated  that the                                                               
state of  Alaska must  be involved  in the  plan.   The utilities                                                               
doing it without  funding from the state  would cause significant                                                               
rate increases,  and receiving federal funding  requires the same                                                               
amount of investment from the state.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:48:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  stated on  slide 13 that  the federal  government has                                                               
decided  to   move  forward  with  AEA's   applications  on  grid                                                               
resiliency  and  smart grid.    Out  of 144  applications  moving                                                               
forward on  the first topic, 10  grants will be awarded,  and out                                                               
of 157 applications on the second  topic, 25 to 40 grants will be                                                               
awarded.   He said that the  state is still waiting  to hear back                                                               
on the third  topic, grid innovation.  On slide  14, he said that                                                               
the  applications  for federal  funding  are  part of  the  first                                                               
funding cycle in the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:51:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked if it  was "worth the risk" to complete                                                               
parts of  the project individually  without knowing if  the state                                                               
would receive federal grants for the other applications.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY answered  that if one were to accept  the premise that                                                               
this has  to be the  state's plan, the answer  would be yes.   He                                                               
opined that the project needs to be completed "either way."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  commented that the effects  of not receiving                                                               
federal funding could be increased  taxes and less state money to                                                               
fund other  areas.   He warned that  there could  be consequences                                                               
for completing  only part of the  project if this were  to be the                                                               
case.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  responded that each part  of the project has  its own                                                               
benefit.   Upgrades to  the Sterling to  Quartz Creek  line would                                                               
reduce  losses of  energy  produced by  Bradley Lake  by  3 or  4                                                               
percent.  In  response to a follow up question,  he said that the                                                               
math on the projects is part of the NEPA process.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:54:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE  asked how  the  planned  funding of  the                                                               
project would be affected by the proposed spending caps.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY answered that he did not know.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:56:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK  asked if  there was  a priority  list for                                                               
the project  in the  event that the  legislature decided  to fund                                                               
only part of it.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY answered  that  part of  the  application process  is                                                               
listing the priorities  within the project, and that  the work on                                                               
that is currently ongoing.  In  response to a follow up question,                                                               
he said that  phase 1 of the project would  require $1.26 billion                                                               
of  state  funding,  which  would   fund  the  transmission  line                                                               
upgrades up to the central region of the Railbelt.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:59:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  continued to slide  15 and  said that the  plan would                                                               
create benefits  for rural communities,  and those  benefit plans                                                               
are part of the application process.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:00:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAUSCHER  asked  where  the  data  for  rural  communities                                                               
originates.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY responded  that  the  Regional Railbelt  Coordination                                                               
group is  currently collecting that  data and has  some available                                                               
from the previous census.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:01:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY skipped to slide 17  and reviewed the timeline for the                                                               
grant selection  process and when  the proposals  were submitted.                                                               
He reiterated  that the Regional Railbelt  Coordination group has                                                               
been invited to apply for the  first two proposals and is waiting                                                               
to hear back  on the third.   He stated that the  amount of money                                                               
for the  grants would  be approximately  $50-$70 million  for the                                                               
first,  $15 million  for the  second,  and $300  million for  the                                                               
third.     There   would  not   be   any  financial   commitments                                                               
immediately,  but the  way that  financial  commitments would  be                                                               
dealt with would be bound by what was said in the application.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:04:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE asked  if it would be  possible to subject                                                               
the  amount  of money  allocated  during  the reward  negotiation                                                               
process to oil revenues.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY answered  that the  primary  focus is  to secure  the                                                               
funding  if  possible;  he  said that  he  believes  the  federal                                                               
government would  want something more  specific when it  comes to                                                               
the numbers involved.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:06:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK  asked about the possibility  of increased                                                               
energy  storage needs  if more  renewable energy  is used  in the                                                               
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  answered that  there is  more than  one way  to store                                                               
energy,  including batteries  and pond  storage at  hydroelectric                                                               
plants.    He  stated  that grid  stabilization  is  the  current                                                               
priority, as energy used from storage is quickly used.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:10:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE voiced  his concern that the  speed of the                                                               
process could  make the Railbelt  Reliability Council  (RCC) less                                                               
effective,  and he  asked what  impact  it could  have on  public                                                               
input.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  answered that the RRC  should be placed in  charge of                                                               
the plan when it is finished being  set up, but it will take some                                                               
time to reach that point.  He  added that there will be much more                                                               
time for public input when the NEPA process begins.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:15:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER  asked when  Alaska would  receive the  funding if                                                               
the state's application were accepted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY stated  that award  negotiations would  occur in  the                                                               
fall and  winter of  2023, and the  following NEPA  process would                                                               
take between three and five years.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:17:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER reiterated that the  Railbelt is in historic alignment                                                               
with the need to upgrade the transmission system.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:18:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease. at 11:19 a.m.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:19:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special Committee on Energy meeting was adjourned at 11:20 a.m.                                                                 

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